0@Loc: Curtis/nov29/nov29b.cha1@PID: 11312/t-00001855-12@Begin3@Languages: eng4@Participants: TEA Teacher, STU Student, SEV Several_Students Student, NAT5Nathan Student, KAT Katie Student, SAR Sarah Student, JIL6Jillian Student, BTY Brittany Student, NIC Nicole Student7@ID: eng|Curtis|TEA|||||Teacher|||8@ID: eng|Curtis|STU|||||Student|||9@ID: eng|Curtis|SEV|||||Student|||10@ID: eng|Curtis|NAT|||||Student|||11@ID: eng|Curtis|KAT|||||Student|||12@ID: eng|Curtis|SAR|||||Student|||13@ID: eng|Curtis|JIL|||||Student|||14@ID: eng|Curtis|BTY|||||Student|||15@ID: eng|Curtis|NIC|||||Student|||16@Media: nov29b, video17@Comment: Curtis class nov29b.18*TEA: so Nathan's thinking of a core square made of two red squares and19two black squares. ▶20*NAT: +< the top one it's over here um there would be a red to match um21that one and then there would be uh um over here a black to match22the red. ▶23*TEA: okay do see what Nathan just described with words to you. ▶24*TEA: hopefully you were making a picture in your mind. ▶25*TEA: he was thinking about a core square that would have two squares of26black not right next to each other or one above the other but kitty27corner or diagonal. ▶28*TEA: two squares of black and then two squares of red making like a29checker board pattern so his core square would be made up of four30squares two black and two red and then what he described for you is31taking four of those core squares and arranging them in a +... ▶32*NAT: um a checker board. ▶33*TEA: the four of em [: them] together would be a +... ▶34*NAT: +< um a two by two design. ▶35*TEA: +< two by two design. ▶36*TEA: and they would keep that checker board design as he described for37you how when the core squares went together a black square would38meet a red square and a red square would meet a black square. ▶39*NAT: +< yeah. ▶40*TEA: each way that he <perfected> [?] xxx. ▶41*NAT: +< I know if you turn [//] and you wouldn't have to like turn them42and do all that stuff you could just um put them in all in place. ▶43*TEA: okay so Nathan just found another example of how it's possible +//.44▶45*TEA: eyes up here Alex. ▶46*TEA: to make a two by two design without turning and flipping. ▶47*TEA: so if we've just seen this way and the way Nathan talked to us48about to make a two by two design without turning or flipping then49why did we go to all that trouble yesterday instead of just using50core squares like this we took all the time and effort to make ours51two sided. ▶52*TEA: we cut [//] we colored on both sides. ▶53*TEA: we made sure as Jillian put it that the shapes matched and that the54colors matched. ▶55*TEA: we took a lot of time to make two sided core squares and now I'm56wondering did we waste our time? ▶57*SEV: no. ▶58*TEA: so what the [//] what good are these two sided core squares going59to do us today? ▶60*STU: +< xxx (be)cause now you can +... ▶61*TEA: what good [/] what good is that gonna [: going to] do us? ▶62*TEA: Katie what do you think? ▶63*KAT: well um because we'd be able to like if we needed to flip (th)em64instead of turn (th)em instead of putting (th)em in like a different65way we wouldn't be able to make like a lot of core squares if you66[//] if we didn't flip (th)em or anything. ▶67*KAT: so you would need like um two sided core squares so you +... ▶68*TEA: okay so we're back to two sided ones will let us flip (th)em and69turn (th)em. ▶70*TEA: why will we wanna [: want to] flip (th)em and turn (th)em? ▶71*KAT: because we could [//] because we wanna [: want to] be able to make72a lot of two by two designs. ▶73*TEA: why do we wanna [: want to] make a lot of two by two designs? ▶74*KAT: uh well because we um we needed to make a family booklet of the two75by two designs and we needed to have at least six or five of (th)em.76▶77*TEA: okay so we're gonna [: going to] try to make five or six different78two by two designs and that's uh for a quilt family booklet I heard79Katie say and she said if we're gonna [: going to] make five or six80of them we'll need to flip and turn them. ▶81*TEA: we made this one without flipping and turning. ▶82*KAT: yeah but we woulda [: would have] been able to make a lot more [//]83woulda [: would have] been able to make like four or five more. ▶84*STU: yeah we could. ▶85*TEA: without flipping or turning? ▶86*SAR: yeah we could make (th)em without flipping or turning. ▶87*STU: we can't make a quilt family. ▶88*TEA: um without flipping or turning how could I make a different core89square [//] uh a different two by two design than this one. ▶90*SAR: +< oh yeah. ▶91*STU: you make uh um when you take (th)em up you made a xxx. ▶92*TEA: um can you tell that I put the [//] how could [//] the yellow told93me right away that I was putting them all the same way. ▶94*TEA: the yellow corner. ▶95*TEA: can anyone tell me how to use those four pieces a different way96without flipping (th)em or turning (th)em that will make a two by97two design. ▶98*TEA: I can't flip (th)em and I can't turn (th)em. ▶99*TEA: Jillian you can tell me how to use these four pieces to make a100different two by two design? ▶101*JIL: um can I come up? ▶102*TEA: mhmm. ▶103*TEA: can xxx scoot really far in I don't want Jillian to step on this. ▶104*JIL: blue triangles be xxx um you could [//] these blue triangles will105be up where these yellow triangles um are. ▶106*TEA: how could I get that blue triangle up here up to where this yellow107triangle is here without flipping or turning? ▶108*JIL: um. ▶109*NIC: you can't make a quilt family. ▶110*STU: you can't. ▶111*STU: you can't. ▶112*TEA: hmm. ▶113*TEA: that would be a different two by two design wouldn't it um. ▶114*STU: it [/] it xxx. ▶115*TEA: Jillian wants this blue triangle up where the yellow triangle is. ▶116*SAR: if all the yellow ones were in the middle it'd be the same design117as on that red blue and yellow quilt up there. ▶118*TEA: yep could I get all the yellow ones in the middle without flipping119or turning? ▶120*SEV: no. ▶121*TEA: could I get +//. ▶122*STU: xxx have to turn xxx +//. ▶123*TEA: could I get yellow ones in the middle in like a diamond shape124you're thinking? ▶125*STU: yeah. ▶126*TEA: without flipping. ▶127*SEV: yeah. ▶128*STU: +< yeah. ▶129*STU: +< yes. ▶130*STU: yes. ▶131*SAR: definitely. ▶132*TEA: &def . ▶133*TEA: why do you say definitely? ▶134*TEA: you're so sure about that. ▶135*STU: yes. ▶136*SAR: +< because you can xxx it [//] turn this one in and then turn that137one there and then turn again and turn it again and that one that138way and then you have xxx. ▶139*TEA: alright if I'm gonna [: going to] start with this one. ▶140*TEA: Sarah if I'm gonna [: going to] use this core square exactly the141way it began where would you want me to put that in the two by two142design. ▶143*SAR: um. ▶144*TEA: from the [//] I just wanna [: want to] copy this one. ▶145*TEA: I don't wanna [: want to] turn this one or flip it. ▶146*TEA: where would it go in the two by two design. ▶147*TEA: we're trying to make a yellow diamond in the center. ▶148*TEA: will it go on the top? ▶149*STU: no. ▶150*TEA: where would I put it? ▶151*SAR: it'd be um like +/. ▶152*TEA: let me [/] let me draw a frame for a two by two design so they know153the space we're thinking about. ▶154*TEA: this is bigger than our core squares but if we wanna [: want to]155make a two by two design with the yellow diamond in the middle where156would I put this one? ▶157*SAR: there. ▶158*TEA: right here? ▶159*TEA: here? ▶160*SAR: there. ▶161*TEA: okay now all of these are still like this. ▶162*TEA: Sarah what would I do with this one um to get it in the right163position here? ▶164*TEA: you don't want it like that do you? ▶165*SAR: no. ▶166*TEA: so do I flip it? ▶167*SAR: um no turn it um right two fourths. ▶168*TEA: turn it right two fourths. ▶169*STU: but +//. ▶170*TEA: one fourth two fourths. ▶171*STU: you said not to turn it. ▶172*TEA: that look okay to you Nicole? ▶173*STU: yeah but now you need the other two pieces. ▶174*TEA: yep and I also need another piece of tape. ▶175*STU: from Jillian's. ▶176*SEV: that's Jillian's! ▶177*TEA: that's Jillian's core square. ▶178*TEA: okay how about this one? ▶179*TEA: it does [//] is that how we want it? ▶180*SEV: no. ▶181*STU: turn it left. ▶182*STU: left. ▶183*STU: one fourth. ▶184*STU: yeah. ▶185*STU: yay! ▶186*STU: yes! ▶187*TEA: okay and what about this one. ▶188*SEV: turn it right two fourths. ▶189*STU: +< one fourth. ▶190*STU: +< one fourth. ▶191*STU: +< one fourth! ▶192*STU: turn it right one fourth. ▶193*STU: you made it. ▶194*TEA: so what did we make? ▶195*STU: xxx. ▶196*STU: +< um the +//. ▶197*STU: +< a core square. ▶198*STU: +< you made a two by two. ▶199*SAR: and it looks exactly like the one up there xxx. ▶200*TEA: okay so we made a two by two design like the one we used for our201finished quilt. ▶202*TEA: is this the same two by two design that was up here before? ▶203*SEV: no! ▶204*STU: no. ▶205*STU: different! ▶206*TEA: it's a different one. ▶207*BTY: (be)cause the triangles used to be in the [//] one used to be [//]208they all used to be left on the top corner. ▶209*TEA: okay so the yellow triangles used to be in the top left corner? ▶210*KAT: one of (th)em's still is. ▶211*TEA: of each core square? ▶212*BTY: yeah one of (th)em is still there. ▶213*TEA: right this one right okay. ▶214*TEA: um we &s [//] I didn't have any problem using these core squares to215make a different two by two design (be)cause you gave guys me such216wonderful directions so I still don't get it. ▶217*TEA: why did we color on the backs of those [//] on the core squares you218designed yesterday. ▶219*SAR: if we flip (th)em then we can still see color on the back and we220know if it looks different and if it looks the same. ▶221*TEA: well why will need to flip (th)em? ▶222*TEA: we just made a different two by two design and we didn't flip it at223all. ▶224*SAR: but if we [//] if we couldn't turn it you'd have [//] you would225have to flip it and that and um if you color it on the back then um226you can see that if you turn [//] if you flip it you can still make227a different one without turning it. ▶228*TEA: mm why wouldn't I be able to turn it? ▶229*SAR: well like we had to do [//] we couldn't flip it xxx. ▶230*TEA: on this one? ▶231*TEA: well why did I say we should try to do this one with only turning?232▶233*SAR: to see if we could um +/. ▶234*STU: xxx. ▶235*TEA: +< what would have happened if you had flipped (th)em? ▶236*STU: +< xxx color on the back! ▶237*STU: (be)cause there isn't any color on the back. ▶238*TEA: right so if we proved we can do it with only turning why would we239need to flip? ▶240*STU: oh! ▶241*STU: oh! ▶242*TEA: what do you think Nicole? ▶243*TEA: Nathan I need you to sit up please. ▶244*NIC: (be)cause a quilt family [//] if you don't flip it you'll always245[//] you'll pretty much almost get the same one all the time. ▶246*TEA: what would I get the same one all the time? ▶247*STU: the flipped two by two. ▶248@End